Who Gave That Spirit Permission To Haunt?

Question…

Sorry, but I’ve been thinking. Left brain at work again… I was wondering… what degree does a spirit that would stay here instead of going to heaven… and I do read and pay attention to answers here… I have read from my favorites… Free choice to not follow the light and so on…

But, if a spirit wants to remain for whatever reason… how can they do that when they are called to dust to dust and ashes to ashes?

Asked by Lisa

5 Comments
  1. Hi Lisa,

    A spirit is a person who has died and crossed over into heaven. They come and visit when they have something important to do for the family, or a message, or just for a moment to check up on us. They do not hang around. In heaven we release attachment to the personality we were on earth, but we can still appear as that person to anyone who knew us. We become our true, loving, spiritual selves. Each spirit still has free will but know that their families need to heal and move on from their death. They give love, they take ‘nothing’ from us.

    A ghost is a person who has died and decided not to cross into heaven. They are still the same person they were when they died, with all their fears, phobias, ambitions, opinions, attitudes, habits, beliefs and ego they had when they were alive. They still feel (emotional) pain and anger. They don’t need anyone’s permission to haunt, they still have free will. They take from the living, requiring our energy to maintain their artificial existence – and in return they share with their victims all their pain, sorrow, fear, and other negative emotions, and sometimes their desire to continue their addictions (drugs, alcohol, sex, abuses of many kinds). This is one of the reasons why its really important to cross ghosts into healing .. so they can become spirits instead.

    I am trying to get people to separate the two in their minds, because the word ‘spirit’ is abused, has been given far too many meanings, and confuses the heck out of people. Back to the question ..

    When a person dies three things happen. The body returns to earth in some form, the ego dissolves and the spirit returns to God. So when it comes to the phrase ‘ashes to ashes, dust to dust’ – that part of the Book of Common Prayer burial ceremony always puzzled me .. :-)

    Ashes to ashes, dust to dust .. lovely .. no problem, to me it indicates cremation or burial – only creamation is banned in a lot of Christian churches because they believe a person has to have a body to be resurrected in (hmmm.. even after being buried in the ground for 2000 years? Though some ground does preserve bodies, most doesn’t), and if its ‘burned’ then there’s no body – hence no resurrection. The ashes part has no biblical standing (its only a sign of mourning), but dust does. Gen 3:19 says ‘to dust you will return’. I have to wonder if the writer of the prayer got it from ‘re-interpreting’ Genesis 18:27 where Abraham called himself ‘ashes and dust’, before going to talk to a very angry Jehovah.

    Only the body is called to ashes and dust, not the spirit. The spirit is called to God, but because of free will, they can turn their back and walk away. God understands. S/he GAVE us the right to choose. And God shows no sign of taking it away again, even when a good Christian profoundly, and often deliberately, breaks every Commandment ever written, and yet still calls themselves Christian?

    Interesting question. :-) I’ll do an Oliver Twist and say ‘more please’ LOL

    Love & Peace
    Ama

  2. Hi Lisa

    First off, the noun ‘Spirit’ is an umberella term for anything that has no physical form. Here’s some examples:

    1. the principle of conscious life; the vital principle in humans, animating the body or mediating between body and soul.
    2. the incorporeal part of humans: present in spirit though absent in body.
    3. the soul regarded as separating from the body at death.
    4. conscious, incorporeal being, as opposed to matter: the world of spirit.
    5. a supernatural, incorporeal being, especially one inhabiting a place, object, etc., or having a particular character: evil spirits, ghosts etc.

    For this very reason, and to reduce confusion, it is probably best to refer to it as its specific, rather than a generalisation. As Ama says, using the umberella term can cause confusion.

    Why do they resist the temptation and calling to go into the light?

    There are many reasons. Here are a few, as examples:

    SHOCK – Sudden and unexpected death; the person may not even realise or accept they are dead.
    VENGEANCE – Want to ‘get back’ at who ever did them wrong.
    LOVE – Too many emotional ties here on earth.
    FEAR – A guilty conscience; fearing God’s judgement; fear of abandonment; fear of isolation etc

    No one gives them permision to haunt, they decide to do that all by themselves. It’s a ‘death’ choice thing. LOL!

    As for ‘ashes to ashes’, ‘dust to dust’, these are references to the physical part of our being (bodies) and not the spiritual part of our being (soul). There are some religions that believe the dead shall actually rise in physical form – as either rotting bodies or skeletons presumably?? One of the most favoured places to be buried it seems is the Mount Of Olives, for just such a resurrection. Don’t think I’d want my spirit to be re-housed in a body that has decayed beyond recognition myself, but there you go. Everyone see’s it differently.

    Hope that has helped?

    AJ
    x

  3. LOl! I feel like a school teacher now … tee! hee!

  4. PS I was refering to the ‘spirit’ part of the post, not the rest of my post. Sorry, think my flippant remark came out a bit wrong! LOL!

  5. You know, AJ, when Christian fathers created that ‘resurrected in the body thing’ I don’t think they took the body’s natural decomposition into consideration. There is a belief that a true ‘saint’s’ body remains perfectly preserved .. which probably comes from the fact that some soils over in the ‘holy land’, and other countries, actually do preserve a body. And then we have the process of mummification itself, which the Eyptians, and others, used to make sure there was a ‘body’ for the king (and rich folk) to return to, or walk about it, in the afterlife.

    Add in that vampires bodies are preserved too … ok, ok, maybe not .. LOL .. and you have the walking dead?

    Love & Peace
    Ama

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